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Old 08-24-2007, 03:31 PM
mongidig mongidig is offline
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Default Kill pot.

8-16 live 9 handed. KIll pot. we are playing 16-32. The killer is last to act and is on the butoon.

One MP and two LP players limp, I am in SB with Adjh and choose to complete, BB folds, and the actions is on the killer(He is very loose and aggressive pre and post flop) He raises, and now the action is on me. Here is the first question for this hand..Should I reraise and try to isolate? I decided just to call since I figured not all the limpers would fold(a couple loose players) and it was very likely the killer would cap. By the way he could have a very wide range of hands here.

Every body calls the raise.

The flop: Td8h6s

It is checked to the killer who bets, I am next. What would you do? Comments on all streets welcome.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Kill pot.

Your thoughts on pre-flop action I agree with. I c-raise the flop here.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Kill pot.

Reraising preflop is pretty pointless since your equity edge is marginal and you probably wouldn't create much dead money.

I think you should raise the flop also, this pot is worth fighting for.
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:46 PM
ZOMG_RIGGED! ZOMG_RIGGED! is offline
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Default Re: Kill pot.

If you dont think either of the two limpers would fold PF for 2 more, why do you think either of them would fold now if they've caught anything?
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Old 08-24-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: Kill pot.

I just don't think you have enough equity to want to raise the flop here. You have at best 2 overs and a bd strait. On top of that, this flop is all over limpers hands so your J might not be good b/c it'll make someone 2 pair or a strait a good portion of the time. Just toss it here and be done with it. Just b/c its a kill pot doesn't change the # of bets in the pot, just the value. In this case we're talkin about 10.5:1 immediate plus reverse implied odds of getting c/r'ed by another player
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:24 PM
bernie bernie is offline
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Default Re: Kill pot.

So, if the killer was in MP, preflop would go as usual, skipping him, and then coming back to him to act last after the BB?

If so, if the BB raises, does he then act then does it go back to UTG and start back around, skipping him?

I've heard of the killer acting last before but usually that means the pre-round starts on his direct left. This scenario seems odd to me.

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Old 08-24-2007, 10:31 PM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
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Default Re: Kill pot.

Why on earth would you guys c/r this flop?
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: Kill pot.

I wouldn't c/r flop, to be honest, OOP with a pot this size, I don't think that there is much value in continuing, players tend to tighten up raising requirements in a kill pot (generalization, correct me if I'm wrong about this game) and with a pot this size, with a lack of raises everyone is likely to stay priced in, you have to hit to continue and I don't think any of your outs are clean 3-4 handed.
I would give it up.
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