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Old 08-18-2006, 02:14 PM
Miyogi Miyogi is offline
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Default I love to call overbets NL$100

So this is a fairly standard line for me. I'm curious to see if you guys like it or not.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $166.80
CO: $48.10
Hero: $118.70
SB: $65
BB: $138.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8.5</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($27.5, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($27.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $28</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $83.5
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:15 PM
los_toros los_toros is offline
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100

You're trying to catch bluffs with this hand a lot of the time, so if CO is one to float flops or bluff at somewhat coordinated boards, then you could justify a call.
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J T
3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls.

Flop: 2 T 4 ($12, 2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls.

Turn: 8 ($28, 2 players)
SB bets $18, Hero calls.

River: Q ($64, 2 players)
SB is all-in $208.05, Hero calls.
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J T
3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls.

Flop: 2 T 4 ($12, 2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls.

Turn: 8 ($28, 2 players)
SB bets $18, Hero calls.

River: Q ($64, 2 players)
SB is all-in $208.05, Hero calls.

[/ QUOTE ]


Did you win?
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:32 PM
Miyogi Miyogi is offline
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100

Yeah this is the type of situation I get myself into. Though I could prolly fold that hand. For some reason I find overbets signal the "he's bluffing" reaction out of me when at least some of the time they should be getting the "he is a fish trying to win a big pot" reaction.
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:49 PM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J T
3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls.

Flop: 2 T 4 ($12, 2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls.

Turn: 8 ($28, 2 players)
SB bets $18, Hero calls.

River: Q ($64, 2 players)
SB is all-in $208.05, Hero calls.

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Did you win?

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he had A4o and MHIG
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:51 PM
f1shermanjim f1shermanjim is offline
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100

Maybe I am a weak player, but I fold the river.

You showed weakness on the Turn and why risk it on the river with that board,,,flush, straight, trips, full houe,etc......

It sure looks like the T helped him, or he wanted to c-raise the turn. If I have the nuts here I am betting the pot in hopes that you put me all in.

If you do anything here besides fold, you put him all in, but that is only like $7 more.

Also you need more of a read on this guy. Why is he the short stack? Did he buy in short, did he take a bad beat, is he loose??? Even so, I think he outplayed you with that bet.

Fold, then get up and move to his left.
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Old 08-18-2006, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100

[ QUOTE ]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J T
3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls.

Flop: 2 T 4 ($12, 2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls.

Turn: 8 ($28, 2 players)
SB bets $18, Hero calls.

River: Q ($64, 2 players)
SB is all-in $208.05, Hero calls.

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I think you need a read for this type of play (which I assume you had). Against an unknown I would never make this call.

BTW... I love betting QQ like this because people assume you are bluffing.
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Old 08-18-2006, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100

[ QUOTE ]
So this is a fairly standard line for me. I'm curious to see if you guys like it or not.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $166.80
CO: $48.10
Hero: $118.70
SB: $65
BB: $138.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8.5</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($27.5, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($27.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $28</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $83.5

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This is pretty standard for me too.
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Old 08-20-2006, 03:53 PM
Tuee Tuee is offline
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Default Re: I love to call overbets NL$100

I'm not calling the river bet as a standard line on a draw-heavy board like this, but I'm playing this line against guys who I know for floating cbets on the flop to steal it later. The flush/stright scare makes me that much more hesitant to call unless I've really pegged this guy as a very frequent bluffer.

The hands most likely to beat you when you call are 9Ts through 9As, or any 9T; you're less likely to see a 5 due to the weak play you've seen on the flop and turn.

In general, I'm folding this one.
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