Help Required Vs Short Stack Opponents

tomonbass · #1 08-15-2007, 05:30 PM

Hi all

Can anyone give me any links or post any advice regarding playing vs short stacks

Ive looked through all the Anthologys etc but cant seem to find anything...

I hate short stacks behind me ruins my attempts at blind stealing and such and also when you get called a cbet often gets called by hands although weak that are winning...

burning up $$$

Ii need help with this topic if anyone can give any advice it would be much apprechiated...

Milky · #2 08-15-2007, 05:32 PM

Depends on how short but if they have something like 20bb or less I would just stop trying to steal and only raise a hand you know has showdown value.

Personally if more than 1 player is a shortstack I find another table (unless the rest of the table is super fishy).

tomonbass · #3 08-15-2007, 05:38 PM

But even with good hands what about cbet etc ...

It it wise just not too cbet ?

spacetime · #4 08-15-2007, 05:42 PM

Without stats, just observe them against other opponents. Push a lot of close equity situations.

Perhaps you can give an example or two of some hands that you are struggling on?

Milky · #5 08-15-2007, 05:42 PM

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But even with good hands what about cbet etc ...

It it wise just not too cbet ?

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Depends on the villain. Some shortstacks will call to the flop with only 7BB left and fold to a cbet. Others will push. Generally though I tend not to cbet unless I hit the flop somehow against a shortstack, at least until you know how aggressive he is.

tomonbass · #6 08-15-2007, 05:48 PM

Hands Like this in general

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($8.30)
UTG ($11.70)
MP ($1.85)
Hero ($25.25)
SB ($11.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.6, 2 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.45) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.25, MP calls $1.25 (All-In).

Turn: ($0) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($0) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $3.95

wslee00 · #7 08-15-2007, 05:57 PM

in that example, you definitely c-bet, and those are the types of hands you should be raising pf against shorties. Hands like 67s I would NOT raise w/ if I am against only a shortie.

Milky · #8 08-15-2007, 05:57 PM

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Hands Like this in general

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($8.30)
UTG ($11.70)
MP ($1.85)
Hero ($25.25)
SB ($11.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.6, 2 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.45) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.25, MP calls $1.25 (All-In).

Turn: ($0) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($0) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $3.95

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I check behind on the flop. If he has any piece of this board (or a PP) he's calling most of the time. Check and pray for an ace or ten.