Aces hand

AceofSpades · #1 12-12-2006, 10:22 PM

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($178.25)
MP1 ($64.60)
MP2 ($98)
Hero ($62)
Button ($104.65)
SB ($65.70)
BB ($160.25)
UTG ($128.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.5, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $4.50, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($13.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+1 calls $7.

Turn: ($27.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($27.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $26.2, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $53.70

CrushinFelt · #2 12-12-2006, 10:35 PM

OMG ACES ACES ACES SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE

NO NO HE PROBABLY HAS YOU BEAT FOLD FOLD FOLD

NO NO CALL AND REEVALUATE TURN

NO NO ITS ALL READ DEPENDENT WHO IS VILLAIN

*jumps off a cliff*

liquid · #3 12-12-2006, 11:00 PM

Pot-Limit Omaha FAQ and Guidelines

Q: How do I play AAxx?

OMG ACES ACES ACES SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE

NO NO HE PROBABLY HAS YOU BEAT FOLD FOLD FOLD

NO NO CALL AND REEVALUATE TURN

NO NO ITS ALL READ DEPENDENT WHO IS VILLAIN

*jumps off a cliff*

hondoishere · #4 12-12-2006, 11:08 PM

Ace I see you making these huge AAxx raises preflop, is that normal. I play alot of omaha but just started playing daily online is it profitable to be raising that much with AA thats what I would question most in your last two posts.

CrushinFelt · #5 12-12-2006, 11:55 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Pot-Limit Omaha FAQ and Guidelines

Q: How do I play AAxx?

OMG ACES ACES ACES SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE

NO NO HE PROBABLY HAS YOU BEAT FOLD FOLD FOLD

NO NO CALL AND REEVALUATE TURN

NO NO ITS ALL READ DEPENDENT WHO IS VILLAIN

*jumps off a cliff*

[/ QUOTE ]

pin it up beset, and a * for the next person to post an "AAxx wahhh wtf do I do now" thread

wazz · #6 12-13-2006, 12:20 AM

I'm gonna go find a tough AA hand to post so you can * me

bilbo-san · #7 12-13-2006, 05:48 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Pot-Limit Omaha FAQ and Guidelines

Q: How do I play AAxx?

OMG ACES ACES ACES SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE

NO NO HE PROBABLY HAS YOU BEAT FOLD FOLD FOLD

NO NO CALL AND REEVALUATE TURN

NO NO ITS ALL READ DEPENDENT WHO IS VILLAIN

*jumps off a cliff*

[/ QUOTE ]

pin it up beset, and a * for the next person to post an "AAxx wahhh wtf do I do now" thread

[/ QUOTE ]

So you are basically saying either that:

a) playing AAxx is trivially easy, and you have no idea why all the noobs don't know what to do

or

b) playing AAxx is really [censored] hard and there is no way to explain it, and you just have to play 200k hands, and along the way hope that you aren't butchering it every time so that you actually learn from your own play.

(btw if it's (a) then do please just spit it out).

Personally, the whole "reads-based" answers I see all the time are annoying. Forgive me if 99% of my PLO100 and PLO200 opponents have a turnover rate of 80% and I barely ever see any opponent for more than 200 hands.

You're telling me for all these posts, there aren't ANY "default" plays, or variants of them, for situations without reads?

There aren't ANY general principles to use? Really?

Yes, I've read the stickied posts. They aren't very helpful in readless situations.

wazz · #8 12-13-2006, 06:10 PM

Play more hands, read more books, post more, play another 50K hands, think about things for yourself, -->> AAxx becomes most profitable hand in omaha by a long long way.

pete fabrizio · #9 12-13-2006, 06:34 PM

[ QUOTE ]
a) playing AAxx is trivially easy, and you have no idea why all the noobs don't know what to do

or

b) playing AAxx is really [censored] hard and there is no way to explain it, and you just have to play 200k hands, and along the way hope that you aren't butchering it every time so that you actually learn from your own play.

[/ QUOTE ]

much more b) than a), but it's mostly that AA will often land you in some very close situations that turn on nuances that aren't easy to analyze in a forum, disconnected from the game.

hondoishere · #10 12-13-2006, 06:40 PM

Does anyone know of a study by Caro or anyone else that might prove AA is the most profitable hand?

As I wrote this post I had AA twice and 5x my money maybe its a sign.