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Old 05-03-2007, 01:51 AM
foppa69 foppa69 is offline
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Default JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

Yeah, BB is good TAG 19/13 Alexb81. He isnt too tricky.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($189)
MP ($67.55)
Hero ($200.80)
Button ($101.75)
SB ($204.75)
BB ($302.98)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J.
2 folds</font>, Hero raises to $7 folds</font>, BB raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $13.

Flop: ($41) 7, T, 3 (2 players)</font>
BB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($81) 2 (2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero bets $49</font>, BB calls $300.98 (All-In).
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

Reads? Stats? Anything?

This is very very player dependant IMO.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

I think i like a raise on the flop here to see where you're at, if he reraises this would obv be a fold. Also, i prefer checking behind the turn and possible calling a "value" bet on the river to betting this turn. This looks a lot like stack a donk to me and screams AA or KK.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

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I think i like a raise on the flop here to see where you're at, if he reraises this would obv be a fold. Also, i prefer checking behind the turn and possible calling a "value" bet on the river to betting this turn. This looks a lot like stack a donk to me and screams AA or KK.

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The only problem with a raise on the FLOP is that every worse hand folds, and only better hands call.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:00 AM
pavey21 pavey21 is offline
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

i didnt suggest raising the turn in any part of my post. I suggesting checking the turn and possibly calling a river bet...
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

why are you betting the turn? I'm asking not saying its necessarily wrong

btw you beat akclubs, aqclubs and thats it.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

Isn't he pulling a standard stackadonk on us? I feel like this is an easy fold without more history or in-depth reads. Also I don't bet the turn.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

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why are you betting the turn? I'm asking not saying its necessarily wrong

btw you beat akclubs, aqclubs and thats it.

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I didnt want give free cards, his weak flop bet screams AK, AQ, AJ. I think he would bet bigger with overpair.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

I was sorta setting you up, but 6 outs is not very much. We also can't get much if any value for our hand vs this guy and deny ourselves our 2 outer which we probably stack him if he was going for stack a donk on turn with kk, aa.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair get checkraised AI turn

I think you fold as played. I do like raising the flop to see where you're at.
From an unimaginative TAG (as described) this reaks of AA or KK, (maybe QQ or 10s). This would be a giant overraise of AKs/AQs. I have to believe he would have fired another barrel vs. CRing you with a big flush draw.
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