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Old 06-28-2007, 10:47 PM
driverseati driverseati is offline
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Default WSOP Event 34, 3k Minbet bad spot with AQ and a short stack

Down to 10 players, one 10 handed table. Psyduck is on my left, David Pham is the bb. He was playing pretty wildly, but after donking off 2/3rds of his stack in about 1 hour, he's calmed down a bit.



Limits: 10k-20k

Stacks:
Me: 64k
Psyduck (button): 135k
David Pham: 120k


I'm in the CO with AQ

I raise, Psyduck 3 bets, David Pham 4 bets, back to me. Do you try to get everything in here, or muck?

PS: Yes I realize minbet holdem is boring, but I still have my sanity
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: WSOP Event 34, 3k Minbet

yeah def have to get it in here.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: WSOP Event 34, 3k Minbet

get it in
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: WSOP Event 34, 3k Minbet bad spot with AQ and a short stack

wait so you put in 40k out of 64k w/ AQ and want to fold?
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Old 06-29-2007, 01:27 AM
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wait so you put in 40k out of 64k w/ AQ and want to fold?

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he put in 20k.
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Old 06-29-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: WSOP Event 34, 3k Minbet bad spot with AQ and a short stack

btn's range is wide, pham has maybe ~ TT+ AQ+, (did you really fold this?)
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:36 AM
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btn's range is wide, pham has maybe ~ TT+ AQ+, (did you really fold this?)

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Yes, I did, for some reason at the time I thought the range was way tighter (happens like that sometimes when you play live). I really don't know what got me to do it, it's a hand that's really been bothering me, some people don't mind the fold...but the problem is the stack size. A shorter stack I get it in, a bigger stack i can *maybe* fold knowing the distinct possibility that it could go 5 bets.

Edit: Also to add the fact that psyduck's reraising range is a factor with possible dead cards did enter the back of my head. But hell, flame away, I don't perceive myself to be that good anyways.

Heads up, I get it in, I'm just not sure if 3 ways getting it in given the situation is correct per se, even with the money already in the pot.
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: WSOP Event 34, 3k Minbet bad spot with AQ and a short stack

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Down to 10 players, one 10 handed table. Psyduck is on my left, David Pham is the bb. He was playing pretty wildly, but after donking off 2/3rds of his stack in about 1 hour, he's calmed down a bit.



Limits: 10k-20k

Stacks:
Me: 64k
Psyduck (button): 135k
David Pham: 120k


I'm in the CO with AQ

I raise, Psyduck 3 bets, David Pham 4 bets, back to me. Do you try to get everything in here, or muck?

PS: Yes I realize minbet holdem is boring, but I still have my sanity

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By the way, I got my stack wrong, it was 84k, that just might change things a bit...actually it will change things a lot.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: WSOP Event 34, 3k Minbet bad spot with AQ and a short stack

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Down to 10 players, one 10 handed table. Psyduck is on my left, David Pham is the bb. He was playing pretty wildly, but after donking off 2/3rds of his stack in about 1 hour, he's calmed down a bit.



Limits: 10k-20k

Stacks:
Me: 64k
Psyduck (button): 135k
David Pham: 120k


I'm in the CO with AQ

I raise, Psyduck 3 bets, David Pham 4 bets, back to me. Do you try to get everything in here, or muck?

PS: Yes I realize minbet holdem is boring, but I still have my sanity

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By the way, I got my stack wrong, it was 84k, that just might change things a bit...actually it will change things a lot.

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Umm, yeah, that extra 20k is a pretty huge difference. With 64k, you never fold, with 84k, you can fold pretty easily, especially since it's a 10 handed table. You have 6 hands this round to find a better spot, especially one where Pham isn't the BB. You have to factor in the WSOP final table factor too. A few of the guys are going to be folding a pretty wide range of hands just so they can say they made the final table of a WSOP event.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:49 AM
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driverseati (3:25:41 AM): yeah i did fold, blegh
driverseati (3:25:46 AM): and i had 84k, not 64k
driverseati (3:25:49 AM): that might change things a bit
charder30 (3:26:16 AM): i think that changes it a lot
charder30 (3:26:24 AM): i think i fold with 84k
driverseati (3:26:22 AM): i was playing back the final hands
driverseati (3:26:30 AM): and i thought i had more
driverseati (3:26:41 AM): then thought about what happened the round after
driverseati (3:26:55 AM): one walk, one sb completion in a multiway pot that didn't do much
driverseati (3:27:04 AM): then folded the next time around, plus took down a pot
driverseati (3:27:05 AM): etc
driverseati (3:27:14 AM): and it comes out that i had 84 or 83k
driverseati (3:27:16 AM): something like that
driverseati (3:27:25 AM): and i vaguely remember still having a few stacks of chips in front of me
charder30 (3:28:08 AM): yeah, i think with anything under about 75k, im not folding
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