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Old 09-12-2007, 02:56 AM
MyPTBB100isPOOP MyPTBB100isPOOP is offline
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Default Line check 1-2 nl standard or spew?


Hero (SB): $531.70
BB: $187.00
UTG: $316.60
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>,
button is 17/14 not out of line at all, but i want to win this hand, so i figure 3b pf is a good spot to start, and i expect him to fold often. BB calls $28.00 (19/6), BTN folds

Flop: ($68) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero (??????) bets $66.00</font>,
I bet pot here, as i want to price myself into this hand, is this a mistake, whats a better thought process?
<font color="red">BB raises all-in to $157.00</font>, Hero calls $91.00 [obvious call ya]
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:12 AM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: Line check 1-2 nl standard or spew?

fine imo, make sure he's opening light when you make this kind of move pf, rest is standard.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: Line check 1-2 nl standard or spew?

Don't worry about pricing yourself in, once you bet you are calling. Just try to pick best size bet to fold 66-99.
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Old 09-12-2007, 04:33 AM
MyPTBB100isPOOP MyPTBB100isPOOP is offline
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Default Re: Line check 1-2 nl standard or spew?

bump or selfishness
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Old 09-12-2007, 04:51 AM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: Line check 1-2 nl standard or spew?

if btn isn't out of line at all, why do you want to win this hand?

maybe i'm too str8 forward but this seems like minor spew w/ 9-12 outs... i mean if you have 12 outs it's not spew, but you won't always
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Line check 1-2 nl standard or spew?

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if btn isn't out of line at all, why do you want to win this hand?

maybe i'm too str8 forward but this seems like minor spew w/ 9-12 outs... i mean if you have 12 outs it's not spew, but you won't always

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I think that may be a mistake of mine, wanting to win every pot, but why not give yourself a shot, i certainly think I gave myself the oppertunities to win the pot... I am starting to belive that it is +EV but only slightly, and i may react in a very -ev way to the varience.
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Line check 1-2 nl standard or spew?

the problem is you are probably getting flat called a lot on this flop since he almost surely has a decent pair. Then what do you do? Push turn?
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: Line check 1-2 nl standard or spew?

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the problem is you are probably getting flat called a lot on this flop since he almost surely has a decent pair. Then what do you do? Push turn?

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Good point, what do you think of a check raise AI on this flop, given his assumed range?
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