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Old 08-15-2007, 03:25 PM
hielo_uno hielo_uno is offline
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Default NL200: Is there any ways for me to play this hand better?

I sat at the table for about 20 mins, ppl were general pretty tight, so i decide to play LAG. Villain seems like one of the bad players but i dont have a read on him. He is running 21/5/4. should i have folded the flop against the mini-raise. Im not really familiar with the plays at NL200, as i was taking a shot at the time. Although, prior to this play, i got mini-raised alot on different tables.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $154.45
BB: $200.00
UTG: $203.00
UTG+1: $160.55
MP1: $86.10
MP2: $80.45
MP3: $297.10
CO: $210.00
Hero (BTN): $514.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2.00, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $2.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.00</font>, 3 folds, MP2 calls $9.00

Flop: ($27) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $36.00</font>, Hero calls $18.00

Turn: ($99) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($99) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets all-in for $33.45</font>, hero?
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:37 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: NL200: Is there any ways for me to play this hand better?

Well, fold preflop.

But you were playing loose aggressive to steal from the nits, so I suppose the pfr and cb are OK as long as you don't fall in love with TPWK for a big pot. And you have TPWK and the pot just got big on the flop when he min-raises your cb. So, fold to the min raise.

Now, if you think the min-raise is very often a draw, then you might make a case for pushing on the flop. But calling is not good. I'd say push or fold the flop, with a strong leaning toward fold.

You tried to build a nice little preflop pot, and then either steal with a cb or flop a big hand (2-pair or better) with which to "surprise" somebody with a worse hand for lots of chips. You flopped TPWK. One of the "bad players" min-raises you with much less than a pot sized bet left behind on a draw-heavy flop. So, if you think combo draws are a very big part of his range and that you have enough in the pot already to go up against that range with a marginally +EV, then push. But I don't think that is the case here. I think you got caught stealing with TPWK and you should just give up the pot on the flop. Calling the flop min-raise pretty much commits you to calling the rest if no heart comes on the turn or river. Now, as it turned out, the A and K on the flop and turn might prompt you to make a fold, but only if you don't think he'd do this with a missed combo draw of somekind (like 78s) at least 20% of the time.
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:44 PM
chopchoi chopchoi is offline
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Default Re: NL200: Is there any ways for me to play this hand better?

I don't know about the min-raise. He could have you beat, but he could be on draw. I'd either put him all-in or fold.

The turn card might be a good one for you to represent. You can get him to lay down KJ and QJ. Then again, if he has Ahxh, you're screwed. I don't mind the check.

River. 2 overs to your pair and QT just made a straight. Easy fold.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:01 PM
hielo_uno hielo_uno is offline
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Default Re: NL200: Is there any ways for me to play this hand better?

thx for the reply, Albert Moulton. That was really helpful.

In your relpy, you mentioned about if combo draws being big part of villian's range then i should call. How do know this? How do you know when a combo draw is a big part of your opponent's range?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Is there any ways for me to play this hand better?

Shove or fold flop. I think you can shove if you suspect people playing back lightly because you're playing laggy, otherwise its a standard fold.
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