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Old 04-24-2007, 08:53 AM
NicksDad1970 NicksDad1970 is offline
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Default This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

I've seen posts about moving to a foreign country. Many countries I'd feel very safe. I'm also in no way saying living in the US is very safe.

It's just that I've been to more than one country where I felt fairly unsafe.

Whether it's just or not again this is what I'd be scared of.

Pretty crazy story - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18264642/
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:00 AM
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Default Re: This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

cliffnotes? i read the first page for 10 minutes and it didnt say anything at all.
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

basically he was convicted of a murder (30 yr sentence) he didnt commit, it seems from the article.
he has 2 more appeals and if it doesnt go through he will be in jail for 30 yrs.

article was good.
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

Three other articles:

Nashville Tennessean
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....WS03/703180373

San Antonio Express
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...l.127c7db.html

WSMV-Channel 4, Nashville
www.wsmv.com/video/11294393/index.html?taf=nash
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:07 AM
Mason Hellmuth Mason Hellmuth is offline
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Default Re: This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

I'm pretty sure people get wrongly convicted in the USA too. Some of them even get the death penalty.
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

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I'm pretty sure people get wrongly convicted in the USA too. Some of them even get the death penalty.

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I'm sure of it as well. Seriously though, if you read this article then I'm sure you'd agree with me that it was crazy.

The amount of stuff that was concrete and thrown out on his side vs the amount of hearsay that was accepted on the other side is unbelievable.

I have a little bit of faith in our system that even if a judge here convicted him of that then the appeals court would reverse it in a split second. (maybe their courts will do the same).

Can you imagine that they didn't take any DNA evidence?
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

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I have a little bit of faith in our system that even if a judge here convicted him of that then the appeals court would reverse it in a split second. (maybe their courts will do the same).

Can you imagine that they didn't take any DNA evidence?

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Didn't read the article.

From what little I've learned of this stuff on TV there are quite a few people who have pretty much been PROVEN to not have done the crime through DNA evidence who are continuing to rot away in jail because the appeals process is completely failing them.
Some of them having been in for 20 years or more for not having done any crime.

There are quite a few 'feel-good' stories (using that term loosely) about the guy eventually somehow getting out.
But the number of wrongly imprisoned individuals in THIS country seems to still be somewhat appalling.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

This is the reason I believe (especially for minorities and people from "bad areas", etc) that the old saying of "why would you run from the police if you're innocent" is far from always true.

Let's say my fiancee was murdered, I had little or no alibi, the crime could have easily been committed by me, and being the fiancee I'm the prime (or only) suspect. Would I run? I'd like to think the system works, but would I really stake my life on it? I dunno.

Obviously this would be a very rare situation, but I imagine the qualifications for false imprisonment would be much lower for a random guy from the projects or something.
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:46 AM
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This is the reason I believe (especially for minorities and people from "bad areas", etc) that the old saying of "why would you run from the police if you're innocent" is far from always true.

Let's say my fiancee was murdered, I had little or no alibi, the crime could have easily been committed by me, and being the fiancee I'm the prime (or only) suspect. Would I run? I'd like to think the system works, but would I really stake my life on it? I dunno.

Obviously this would be a very rare situation, but I imagine the qualifications for false imprisonment would be much lower for a random guy from the projects or something.



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While gambling on a "fair" system to exonerate you might be +EV, the risk of ruin of the gamble might be too high.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: This is what would scare me if I moved out of country

Imagine living in a country where they keep foriegn prisoners locked away in military prisons without trial.
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