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Old 06-29-2007, 05:48 PM
neeeel neeeel is offline
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Default anyone play on here, part 2

I am UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I raise, 2 folds, MP1(a TAG) 3-bets,all folded to me, i call

flop comes 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, MP1 bets, i ????

I folded again, too weak? I dont see any point in carrying on, but I must be leaking money somewhere, and wondered if it was these sort of hands, by folding to easily.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:54 PM
BigBadBabar BigBadBabar is offline
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

i usually call the flop at least, and sometimes c/r (moreso in 6m than in fr) it

folding turn ui if he fires again seems okay
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

why would u call the flop tho? u probably only have 3 queen outs, so u dont have the odds to call. and if an ace does come on the turn, it gives u more problems.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

You have 7.5 SB at pot + flop bet so 8.5 SB.
And probably about 4,5-5 outs so if u will call u can make marginal $.

If V is TAG he's rage is probably AKos and TT-AA.
So he can hold A or Q but can also hold worst cards its why we cut down outs.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

In 6max I call or C/r in full ring I fold and think nothing of it actually.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

yeah sorry, should have said it was full ring
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

[ QUOTE ]
You have 7.5 SB at pot + flop bet so 8.5 SB.
And probably about 4,5-5 outs so if u will call u can make marginal $.

If V is TAG he's rage is probably AKos and TT-AA.
So he can hold A or Q but can also hold worst cards its why we cut down outs.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are about 17% against that range, about 5-1.

8(.17)-1(.83) = +.53 bets in EV. Call, but it's thin.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

folding this in fr i wouldn't do on the flop else ppl will start 3betting us light and being able to get away from it really easily b/c they know if we play back we have something
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:18 PM
Gary Frates Gary Frates is offline
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

If you think you're or see yourself as "weak" other players (esp. TAG's) may also and try to take advantage of you.
Myself, this flop I'm not crazy about with your hand--two overcards is about all you have. Maybe with AK I might go on.
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: anyone play on here, part 2

Given our knowledge of Villain being a TAG, the range of hands he is 3-betting with has you beat on the flop. Therefore, you are drawing slim in a pot that isn't that big. I say let it go.
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