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Old 11-12-2007, 08:25 PM
yellwsharf yellwsharf is offline
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Default common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

New player - no reads. No i can't really see him calling my shove with AT or AJ but typically his opening range is going to be pretty wide here... i think? If this was a bad jam then what hands should we be shoving? 99+? All comments appreciated, I seem to be getting into these kind of ugly spots alot with AQ-type hands.

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds, 25 Ante, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: 25,903
Hero (BB): 5,265
UTG: 3,389
UTG+1: 19,536
UTG+2: 9,307
MP1: 7,045
MP2: 2,637
CO: 4,732
BTN: 7,178

Pre-Flop: (585) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 699</font>, 5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 5,240 and is All-In</font>, UTG+2 calls 4,541

Flop: (10,825) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: (10,825) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (10,825) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 10,825 Pot
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Sevens) and LOST (-5,265 NET)
UTG+2 showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Sevens) and WON 10,825 (+5,560 NET)
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:30 PM
Cawley Cawley is offline
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

Hard to say without any reads but i dont mind the shove but i might just call here and take a flop with 25bb
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:35 PM
postoakpoker postoakpoker is offline
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

generally a cooler will be a situation where there's only a very small number of hands that beat your very strong hand and your opponent happens to have one. PF there aren't really coolers, I guess people might consider KK&lt;AA a PF cooler though. cooler example: you have 99 on board of 977108 and your opponent has 1010.

AQ is a big trouble hand, be careful not to overplay it. AK is a big part of his shoving range.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:39 PM
gobucks27 gobucks27 is offline
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

First off, stop being results oriented.. I feel a shove is too extreme w/ 21 BBs here..a fold seems weak but AQo oop against a raiser in EP is crappy..I may dump it against unknown because how strong are you going to feel when an ace flops? Plus you're not getting much out of a player holding KK QQ JJ on an A high flop..
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:40 PM
yellwsharf yellwsharf is offline
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

Well, what I really wanna know is if this shove is a profitable play or not. Like I said AT and AJ I think are generally gonna find folds so I'm only gonna get called by pairs and AK (?). There was 1200 roughly in the pot and I shoved in 5000.. worth it?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:42 PM
yNnOs yNnOs is offline
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

Overplayed. A call OOP isn't bad here. I think you have enough chips to pick a better spot.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

i dont like it because he's in EP.
this is a bit spewy
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:54 PM
yellwsharf yellwsharf is offline
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

Call &gt;&gt; Fold &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Shove?

How are we playing this vs a CO or BTN raiser?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

i think a non-shove committing reraise is always better than a shove here over an LP raiser.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: common but tough spot.. is this a cooler or did I overplay this?

I like a call here. Pushing isn't a good idea in this spot imo.
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