(razz) did I play this as bad as I think I did?

[RustyBrooks]

Seat 3 is 65%vpip, 26% 3rd-st-raise and is prone to making raises for absolutely no reason. I have notes on him to the effect of "made raise showing J558 to person showing 2377"

Seat 2 I don't know much about but is pretty tight, more like 30% vpip (not enough hands to know for sure). He's been complaining a lot and table-captaining. He's got it in for Seat 3 and has been vocally criticizing him ad nauseum (which I think actually induced Seat 3 to fold a few times (correctly) against me (thanks very much jerkwad)

Normally I don't think I'd call 2 on 4th here but Seat 2's hand is awful and Seat 3 could have anything. Seat 3 will also raise and re-raise me on later streets if I make my hand so I think I have some implied odds.

Razz ($0.25/$0.50), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.20 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___raises___raises
Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___raises___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes___calls___calls

4th Street - (13.60 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls

5th Street - (11.30 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (14.30 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

River - (16.30 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (18.30 BB - $9.15)

[xxeximusxx]

you played this fine, lol at the aj raising on 4th

[RustyBrooks]

AJ explicitly said something like "I know you have a better hand but I need Hero to fold". Weirdo.

[adanthar]

call third the first time (don't reopen the action with a 7 up, you'll just get what happened here for no good reason)...as played, instaraise on fourth

[2461Badugi]

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call third the first time (don't reopen the action with a 7 up, you'll just get what happened here for no good reason)...as played, instaraise on fourth

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Yep. Actually I'm pretty sure you should instaraise on fourth even if you limped.

Gotta raise sixth, too, against this guy. Pot's huge, don't let Seat 2 draw cheap.

[*TT*]

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call third the first time (don't reopen the action with a 7 up, you'll just get what happened here for no good reason)...as played, instaraise on fourth

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[SGspecial]

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call third the first time (don't reopen the action with a 7 up, you'll just get what happened here for no good reason)...as played, instaraise on fourth

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Yep. Actually I'm pretty sure you should instaraise on fourth even if you limped.

Gotta raise sixth, too, against this guy. Pot's huge, don't let Seat 2 draw cheap.

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Seat 2 already told you that he paired up on 5th st by smooth calling, and will be folding whether or not Hero raises.

[2461Badugi]

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Seat 2 already told you that he paired up on 5th st by smooth calling, and will be folding whether or not Hero raises.

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Boy, maybe, but raising fifth if he has four to a wheel would be so horrible. He doesn't want to isolate against Hero.

[SGspecial]

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Seat 2 already told you that he paired up on 5th st by smooth calling, and will be folding whether or not Hero raises.

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Boy, maybe, but raising fifth if he has four to a wheel would be so horrible. He doesn't want to isolate against Hero.

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[x] It's 0.25/0.50
[x] No way is seat 3 folding to a "J low"
[x] It's 0.25/0.50

[oscillator]

considering the level, and even in general i think this was played perfectly apart from mayyyybe folding 7th ( which im never really an advocate of after calling 6th )...maybe this is a 6th st call where you recognize a made 8 and allow yourself the call under the pretense that if you dont hit you drop the hand...but again.

also i think sg made a very astute observation regarding the paired 4 on 5th...every limit these [censored] call with their wheel draw, even when every out is gone...noones getting raised out of anything.