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Old 07-29-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Set vs wierd line from PFR

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Button is in seat 10
Total number of players: 5

Seat 3: <font color="#000000">SB</font> ($970,00)
Seat 5: <font color="#000000">BB</font> ($2920,00)
Seat 6: <font color="#000000">UTG</font> ($995,00)
Seat 8: <font color="#000000">CO</font> ($960,00)
Seat 10: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($1224,00)

<font color="#000000">SB</font> posts small blind of $5,00
<font color="#000000">BB</font> posts big blind of $10,00

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

<font color="#000000">UTG</font> folds
<font color="#000000">CO</font> raises to $35,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> calls $35,00
<font color="#000000">SB</font> folds
<font color="#000000">BB</font> folds


Dealing flop 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Pot is: $85,00

<font color="#000000">CO</font> checks
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> bets $75,00
<font color="#000000">CO</font> raises to $225,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> calls $150,00


Dealing turn 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Pot is: $535,00

<font color="#000000">CO</font> bets $275,00


Villain is 22/17/3. He is good enough and in a previous hand recently he CF on a wet enough flop to me. I think he could have air here and expect me to bet the flop, but OP's and FD's make up a large part of his range

On the turn as played, is calling or shoving better?

call shove on blank river? Club river?
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:41 PM
wpr101 wpr101 is offline
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Default Re: Set vs wierd line from PFR

I'd just call the turn bet and get it in on a non club river.

However, I would reraise the flop. You said yourself that FDs are a large part of his range so why not commit him now?
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Set vs wierd line from PFR

i would just jack it up on the flop. as played, on the turn I would just call since he would be scared by the flush if he has an BPP. I call a non-club river and vbet if checked to.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:44 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: Set vs wierd line from PFR

agree with both posters above
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Set vs wierd line from PFR

well vs a range of air, fd's and ops I think its better to wait for a bet from air on the turn, considering a club only hits 20% of the time or something?

IDK, I dont think it makes much of a difference - I can certainly see shoving flop
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Set vs wierd line from PFR

I'd shove now
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Set vs wierd line from PFR

I prefer the line you took on the flop, but theres not much in it anyway.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Set vs wierd line from PFR

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well vs a range of air, fd's and ops I think its better to wait for a bet from air on the turn, considering a club only hits 20% of the time or something?


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Oh yeah, if he has any tendency of making multistreet bluffs then I can see just calling. A lot of times we might play a jack or even QQ like this and then decide we are behind on the turn and fold.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Set vs wierd line from PFR

I play it same as you did and I probably shove turn.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:52 PM
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I play it same as you did and I probably shove turn.

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Where is the advantage in shoving the turn. The only hand he might call with that we are beating is AcJx. Maybe if he's got QcQx too.
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