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Old 03-24-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Leading the flop in $100r

Underolled on Stars, very drunk, very high and on Crypto tilt, I decided to play the $100r for the first time last night. Villain is new to the table and I have done nothing since he arrived.

Villain OTB t8925
Hero t5255
Villain raises 300 to 450
SB folds
Hero raises 600 to 1050
Villain calls 600

*** FLOP *** 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets 900 into the 2200 or so pot. With what cards, if any, is this a good play?
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:27 AM
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QQ/88 trying to lure him in to thinking he has fold equity? Or AA with the ace of spade so you think it is unlikely he has the flush draw.. Nothing else though..
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:42 PM
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If this is the thinking, why not AQ, KK too? Why wouldn't we be happy to induce and call a push with those hands too?
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:13 PM
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the problem with KK is if he has AsJs he will have odds to see a turn. AsQx is ok too probebly, but I would hate a call and the turn show a K. (I think KQ is in his range)
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:35 PM
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I'm not a big fan, expecially readless. If you have air or some crappy hand, I don't like it because the weak c-bet is likely to get called/raised by a random. If you have a monster (QQ+) I don't like it because villain is expecting a big resteal pf anyway. The small flop bet is only good if it's an aggressive player who doesn't know you too well.
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:39 PM
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the problem with KK is if he has AsJs he will have odds to see a turn. AsQx is ok too probebly, but I would hate a call and the turn show a K. (I think KQ is in his range)

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Oh and what if he has 99, I would hate a call and the turn is a 9! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I think you are too worried about small parts of his range.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:19 PM
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the problem with KK is if he has AsJs he will have odds to see a turn. AsQx is ok too probebly, but I would hate a call and the turn show a K. (I think KQ is in his range)

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Oh and what if he has 99, I would hate a call and the turn is a 9! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I think you are too worried about small parts of his range.

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I don't think it's that absurd. You're forcing him to call with pretty much any hand he's raising pf, which includes plenty of suited cards. A flush draw is definitely possible and you're giving him odds.
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:06 AM
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I'm not a big fan, expecially readless. If you have air or some crappy hand, I don't like it because the weak c-bet is likely to get called/raised by a random. If you have a monster (QQ+) I don't like it because villain is expecting a big resteal pf anyway. The small flop bet is only good if it's an aggressive player who doesn't know you too well.

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What's villain's range?
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:25 AM
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don't do against unknown, do against strong player that thinks you're trying to get to next street cheap. Do this with a hand you want allin with against an aggro/good opp
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:47 AM
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whats with the tiny reraise pre?
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