JJ Flops set against donk better

[Saxatilis]

board continuously gets scarier and SB rarely folds call down after turn like I did?

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11BB

[Riku]

Cap pf, raise the turn.

[bozlax]

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Cap pf

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Standard.

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, raise the turn.

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Why?

[SomthingOrOther]

hmm, cap PF for sure. cap flop also (why not) I think the t and r might bee good though..

your inducing th SB to bet weaker hands and not paying to much (getting 3 bet) when he has a FL or st. if the river blanks i might raise there but givin the 10 its an easy call.

[atnels]

I cap preflop and raise turn.

I think the hand might play differently if you cap preflop, but what range do you put SB on with a reraise of an EP raise? AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is possible, but just Ax [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] seems kind of sketchy. AA or KK are possible (which you're crushing) along with QQ.

At any rate, I want to see what response a turn raise gets before calling down.

[Riku]

Because you probably have the best hand.

[bozlax]

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Because you probably have the best hand.

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This is one of those interesting places where a lot of stuff cancels out, so you can just say this is a 2:1 play, i.e. you're losing 2 to a better hand and winning 1 from a worse hand. So, you need to be right &gt; 66% of the time. If you think you're there, so be it, but I see no reason to believe that.

[n0ctu2ne]

I would also think about what you would do if it was checked to you on the turn? What would you do if check-raised?

You've flopped a great holding, which had chances to draw to a full house with a Q, 8, J, or 4 on the turn. You have position, also.

I would play this hand very aggressively. It's a scary board, but this opponent could also be betting AQ, KQ or some other paired hand.

I believe you should bet and raise and if your opponent wants it, he'll have to show you a straight or flush.

[Riku]

Interesting. Thanks for pointing it out Boz :-)

[Buzz-cp]

i don't cap pf