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Old 08-19-2007, 01:05 PM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flop?

You are playing TAG and villain as well. No especially history between you. Neither have been playing out of line. You 3-betted your AXs (X < T) and villain called. What's your plan if you flop...

1 ) A72r
2 ) As7s2d
3 ) Q2Xr
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

1 ) A72r

c/c. we basically have KK here

2 ) As7s2d

depending on villains calling range.

3 ) Q2Xr

bet
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

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1 ) A72r

c/c. we basically have KK here

2 ) As7s2d

depending on villains calling range.

3 ) Q2Xr

bet

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Villains calling range is your standard TAG calling range. Besides, after you c/c flop, do you shout down then (i.e. fold to any more betting from villain)?
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

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1 ) A72r

c/c. we basically have KK here

2 ) As7s2d

depending on villains calling range.

3 ) Q2Xr

bet

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Villains calling range is your standard TAG calling range. Besides, after you c/c flop, do you shout down then (i.e. fold to any more betting from villain)?

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Probably without any better reads
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

lol why 3bet?
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

if you're going to be pushing thin edges like this pre, you have to play well post-flop. this means having a certain balance/randomness so you're not too easily readable/exploitable.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

Ya, agree. Have been watching a couple of cardrunners videos and all those guys are 3-betting w/ AXs in button vs blind. So I figured it was the right thing to do... but only if you play well post flop, so therefore I wanted to check I played all right after being called. My standard atm is the same as JackALL.
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Old 08-19-2007, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

I would bet all 3 flops unless a read told me otherwise.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:12 AM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

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Ya, agree. Have been watching a couple of cardrunners videos and all those guys are 3-betting w/ AXs in button vs blind. So I figured it was the right thing to do... but only if you play well post flop, so therefore I wanted to check I played all right after being called. My standard atm is the same as JackALL.

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fwiw, I wouldn't 3-bet all AXs here. I really don't like it much. It's basically Ace-rag for 90% of the time don't hit a draw on the flop, and we are oop.

If you have AXs in your range of 3-betting from blinds vs button, you could make it only dianmonds so A-rag is not too much of your range, and add in maybe 1/4 for pairs (say, when first hole card is a club), and a percent of sc's too.

And obviously, if you 3-bet wide here, you need to fast play made hands and 5-bet push with AA/KK/AK and if you see them playing back, then add in QQ and maybe JJ.

Anyway, careful while messing around with new strategies at your normal limit. It might be an idea to try this a limit lower.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: We 3-betted our AXs, Button vs BB, what is standard on various flo

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Ya, agree. Have been watching a couple of cardrunners videos and all those guys are 3-betting w/ AXs in button vs blind. So I figured it was the right thing to do... but only if you play well post flop, so therefore I wanted to check I played all right after being called. My standard atm is the same as JackALL.

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fwiw, I wouldn't 3-bet all AXs here. I really don't like it much. It's basically Ace-rag for 90% of the time don't hit a draw on the flop, and we are oop.

If you have AXs in your range of 3-betting from blinds vs button, you could make it only dianmonds so A-rag is not too much of your range, and add in maybe 1/4 for pairs (say, when first hole card is a club), and a percent of sc's too.

And obviously, if you 3-bet wide here, you need to fast play made hands and 5-bet push with AA/KK/AK and if you see them playing back, then add in QQ and maybe JJ.

Anyway, careful while messing around with new strategies at your normal limit. It might be an idea to try this a limit lower.

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Thank you for your advice! ATM I'm not always raising w/ AXs and SC, only when I feel I have good FE (i.e. haven't tangled to much w/ villain etc).
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