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Old 11-04-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default 4 - Ball Size?

Villain is 2p2er of the 19/15 variety. Coldcaller is 20/14/2 reg. Not much history except 10 minutes prior I 4bet villain's BB 3bet and he folded. He only sat recently.

I'm happy to get the money in here given he's squeezing alot, I'm just curious what 4bet size gets the most action.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $383.60
BB: $200
UTG: $355.95
MP: $194
CO: $214.55
Hero (BTN): $231.60

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, CO calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, SB calls $9, <font color="red">BB raises to $44</font>, CO folds,
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: 4 - Ball Size?

why do you want action ?
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: 4 - Ball Size?

the smaller the better. you could easily be restealing and you give him the opportunity to shove over you with worse.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: 4 - Ball Size?

Cause we has a pair!
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: 4 - Ball Size?

doesnt matter a whit, imo. he is going to understand that you're never 4bet folding here

personally i'd just shove
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: 4 - Ball Size?

lol
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: 4 - Ball Size?

shove/fold small 4b is pretty pointless here imo, he'd have to be an absolute maniac to think he has FE here.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 4 - Ball Size?

[ QUOTE ]
doesnt matter a whit, imo. he is going to understand that you're never 4bet folding here

personally i'd just shove

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Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $383.60
BB: $200
UTG: $355.95
MP: $194
CO: $214.55
Hero (BTN): $231.60

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, CO calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, SB calls $9, <font color="red">BB raises to $44</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $88</font>, SB folds, BB calls $44

Flop: ($188)


Actually, I think it does matter. Chances are that his shove calling range != 5bet shoving range. I think they should be equal in theory, but in practice likely won't.

Forget the fact that he might flat. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: 4 - Ball Size?

Foldfoldfoldfoldfold 19/15s generally play way nittier in squeeze situations (I.E. they're not squeezing light a lot if they are standard)

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Old 11-04-2007, 01:28 PM
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Foldfoldfoldfoldfold

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No [censored]
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