expanding 4 betting range?

ski · #1 03-12-2007, 02:02 PM

Pretty simple post

Villain is good regular and was 3 betting me a decent amount.

4bet pf=allin right?

I mix this up with just calling (Just like I play AA+KK)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($442)
BB ($400)
Hero ($972.40)
MP ($151.40)
Button ($106)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, SB (poster) raises to $54, 1 fold, Hero raises to $316, SB calls $440 (All-In), Hero calls $126.

jkkkk · #2 03-12-2007, 02:07 PM

4-bet w/ AK there should be to the amount of has the most fold equity, so whatever you feel represents AA more out of push or a smaller raise (obviously calling ai).

Eagles · #3 03-12-2007, 02:07 PM

I hate 4betting here you raise utg and get 3bet from the sb he's not doing it with a wide range.

ski · #4 03-12-2007, 02:32 PM

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I hate 4betting here you raise utg and get 3bet from the sb he's not doing it with a wide range.

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goddam it, I need to get a new [censored] converter...

2 people were sitting out. I think I was essentially on the button.

ahnuld · #5 03-12-2007, 02:34 PM

utg makes a different but if it was only 3 handed, this is good. but dont 4 bet that much, better to make it 2.25-3.25 times his bet size (call poooosh LDO)

DJ Sensei · #6 03-12-2007, 05:04 PM

If you want to 4-bet you have to 4-bet more than just AK.

and when he repops your UTG open from the SB, thats pretty strong. this may not be the spot for it.

rvg72 · #7 03-12-2007, 05:16 PM

If you put him on a 3-bet range of

66+,AJs+,AQo+,KQs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s

and a call push range of

JJ+,AQs+,AKo

Then it is +$37.71 ev. Against someone who 3-bets a lot vs CO raises, I don't think pushing AK can be bad as long as you are mixing it up by doing the same with AA and worse hands once in a while. btw, given those ranges, JJ+,AQs+,AKo is the +$ev range.

EDIT: and if you give him a $400 stack (instead of $440ish) with the same ranges then pushing 22 here is marginally +$ev. The problem is that if he knows you can push 22 here then he widens his call range and yadda yadda yadda.

rvg
www.rvgsoftware.com for free page to calculate this.

Barrin6 · #8 03-12-2007, 05:27 PM

ski,
What are your stats/image at the table? This is very important.

True · #9 03-12-2007, 05:28 PM

insta fold

rvg72 · #10 03-12-2007, 05:33 PM

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This seems so exploitable... the guy is 3-betting you reasonably often from a CO raise. Probably 8 to 10% of the time if he's an aggressive player. He's going to fold 3/4 of that range to a reraise and if he calls the other 1/4 of the time you are looking decent against his range.

rvg