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#1
05-17-2007, 04:25 PM
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Good fold?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
BB ($418.60) UTG ($400) MP ($314) Hero ($678.30) Button ($74) SB ($458) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $14, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: ($36) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $72</font>, Hero calls $52. Turn: ($180) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $120</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: $300o 
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#2
05-17-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: Good fold?
Why not just fold the flop?
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#4
05-17-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: Good fold?
If im calling the flop im never folding that turn.
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#5
05-17-2007, 04:37 PM
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Re: Good fold?
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If im calling the flop im never folding that turn. [/ QUOTE ] well i can't imagine you're really very good at poker then. or maybe you just fundamentally don't understand certain concepts and know others well enough to get by...
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#6
05-17-2007, 04:39 PM
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Re: Good fold?
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[ QUOTE ] If im calling the flop im never folding that turn. [/ QUOTE ] well i can't imagine you're really very good at poker then. or maybe you just fundamentally don't understand certain concepts and know others well enough to get by... [/ QUOTE ] Feel free to judge my skill at poker but if your going to at least explain why.
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#7
05-17-2007, 04:41 PM
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Re: Good fold?
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[ QUOTE ] If im calling the flop im never folding that turn. [/ QUOTE ] well i can't imagine you're really very good at poker then. or maybe you just fundamentally don't understand certain concepts and know others well enough to get by... [/ QUOTE ] if im calling the flop im never folding that turn
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#8
05-17-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: Good fold?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If im calling the flop im never folding that turn. [/ QUOTE ] well i can't imagine you're really very good at poker then. or maybe you just fundamentally don't understand certain concepts and know others well enough to get by... [/ QUOTE ] Feel free to judge my skill at poker but if your going to at least explain why. [/ QUOTE ] poker is a game of information. sometimes you can get just as information from them betting a blank as you can from a scare card rolling off and them betting. it isn't like you have to call the flop because you know you're ahead and when you hit trips that's it... on this board, if you were no good on the flop you're still no good. it's very possible you call the flop knowing he will not fire a second barrel almost ever, so you can safely fold to a turn blank. that's just using the information you have available to you and a perfectly viable plan.
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#10
05-17-2007, 05:19 PM
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Re: Good fold?
people don't check the next street after checkraising often enough to justify calling a checkraise and then folding the next street (unless for some reason the turn card scares us). it's lighting money on fire.
in this case, the turn card makes it less likely that he holds an ace with a better kicker, and also greatly improves our equity against all better hands. if we thought he had air on the flop often enough to warrant a call, then we are in even better shape now than we were then. btw, I think the first two streets were gross, and I'd never be faced with this turn decision, but had I gotten there it would be because I had the best hand often enough to continue calling down.
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