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Old 08-26-2006, 01:03 PM
StaticShock StaticShock is offline
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Default Q10s getting tricky against a manaic

Villain in the hand is the reason I'm at the table. He's a 70/30 absolute MANIAC. He can have any two cards and will play back with total air. I just sat down, but I think he's been running over the table and catching cards based on his stack. (I don't think he bought in with $3,000) Here's the hand:

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...

I'll play some hands I wouldn't normally play just to get into pots with this guy because I know if I hit them I'll get paid off huge. I mean 4 bets on every street huge regardless of the board. Furthermore, I'll take a few hands further than I normally would for the same reason.

Comments on all streets and/or my general strategy against this clown.
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Old 08-26-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Q10s getting tricky against a manaic

Why are you trying to get someone who caps every street regardless, to fold?
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Old 08-26-2006, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Q10s getting tricky against a manaic

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Why are you trying to get someone who caps every street regardless, to fold?

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FPS against a non-thinking opponent. You're right. I suppose I figured 3 things to talk myself into a very questionable turn c/r:

I have 8 outs to the nuts.
There's real chance that Q high is good right now.
I'm pretty sure catching a Q or 10 will win it for me so there are 6 more dirty outs.
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Old 08-26-2006, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Q10s getting tricky against a manaic

FWIW here's a hand against the same guy I played 3 minutes before.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ad 5d (one pair, twos).
UTG has 4c Tc (one pair, twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.50 BB. </font>
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Old 08-26-2006, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Q10s getting tricky against a manaic

The topic alone is enough to know that this is bad
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Old 08-26-2006, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Q10s getting tricky against a manaic

Trying to outLAG crazy LAGs or outmaniac maniacs typically leads me to curse, yell, and my blood pressure to spike as I drop bets and watch him redistribute my money to the rest of the table.
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Old 08-27-2006, 06:54 AM
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The more loose and aggressive they are, the more I let them do all the betting. That means you don't need to check/raise or slowplay or raise the turn on a draw. Just lock down your game and play solid poker, and let them pay you off.
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Old 08-27-2006, 07:27 AM
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This is criminal. The guy will NEVER fold a better hand under any circumstances. Just call the turn and if you think your hand is good often enough then call the river too.
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: Q10s getting tricky against a manaic

If he's really going apeshit with nothing then you checkraise is for value, cap as well then checkcall the river when you miss and checkraise-cap when you hit (even a T). True maniacs don't come along often and it's important to take advantage.

However if he is looking at his cards then i wouldn't bother, i'd call the turn and decide about Q high on the river.
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:57 PM
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i hate it.
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