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Turn raise ok? Maybe too aggro
First of all i lost against KK, after this hand i thought oh i was just unlucky to lose against a higher pair. So i stove it, pokerstove says i havenīt the equity to raise the turn. I was suprised...
Maybe my range is too small? Board: 9c 7c 3d 4c Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 53.005% 52.12% 00.88% 1032 17.50 { QcQh } Hand 1: 46.995% 46.11% 00.88% 913 17.50 { 77+, AKs, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, QcJc, QcTc } Villian 36/23/1.55 and run like god himself. Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $10/$20 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls. River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10BB, 2 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Results: Final pot: 12BB <font color="#ffffff">Hero shows QC QH </font> <font color="#ffffff">SB shows KH KS </font> |
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Re: Turn raise ok? Maybe too aggro
Don't include results in hand posts. It skews the responses you'll get.
Preflop is 100% a cap. The value you lose by smooth-calling is greater than the expected return you get by trapping. Flop: As played, I'm not sure if you can cap or not. I guess just calling the 3-bet is never "wrong" though. I'd probably raise the turn myself, but the more I think about it the less I like it. We're only getting value from 88, TT, JJ and A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Kx or A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9x. Raising is especially bad if villain can fold AK with no clubs and 66 in this spot. River is correct. |
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Re: Turn raise ok? Maybe too aggro
I think this range is better:
Board: 9c 7c 3d 4c Hand 0: 55.269% { QcQh } Hand 1: 44.731% { 99+, 77, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, A9s, Ac8c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, K9s, QcJc, QcTc, Q9s, JcTc, A9o } if the turn had been the 4s you would have 60% equity still, I would have expected our equity to be better here. it looks like this isn't a very good flop for our slowplayed hand because there aren't many TP hands in his range that we would get extra bets from due to our deception |
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Re: Turn raise ok? Maybe too aggro
The fd hands don't play always like this on the flop, so we need to discount them. AA and KK don't 3 bet the turn. Moreover we can fold to a 3 bet turn on the river if an ace comes (BTW I'm not sure for the river if sb 3 bet the turn, prolly a call but it's tough). The raise is ok imo.
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