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JJ for advanced players -> PL 25
Watch an expert play JJ @ PL25:
Villain was 66/33 after a large samplesize of 3 hands. PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero ($30.35)</font> MP2 ($31.40) MP3 ($20.10) CO ($4.30) <font color="#C00000">Button ($13.75)</font> SB ($19.55) BB ($24.15) UTG ($34.85) UTG+1 ($25.80) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.60. <font color="#000099"> OMG ! A shortie-3-bet. What am i supposed to do ? Easy: Obvious villainīs range is AK/AA/KK. Bad shape 12 times, reasonable shape 16 times. Donīreally have the Odds to call for set value.. Here is the plan: Call and push (well, bet potsize) any non A or K flop except there is a Jack then always push. </font> Flop: ($7.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $10.15</font>, Hero calls $2.70. <font color="#000099">LOL @ Minraise ! (I guess i am toast)</font> Turn: ($28.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> River: ($28.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $28.10 <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font> I like my play but feel bad about it. Is this +EV ? |
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Re: JJ for advanced players -> PL 25
Readless Id perhaps add QQ into a default range but meh, your guessing anyway.
If you really assign this range then for me its auto-fold preflop, sure it sucks folding JJ vs a shortie but if thats your read on a standard PL25 player then trust it. Horrible thing is when you make a laydown like this against an unknown then her turns out to be a 70/30/12 spewtard! |
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Re: JJ for advanced players -> PL 25
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
585,607,968 games 0.005 secs 117,121,593,600 games/sec Board: Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 46.876% 45.83% 01.04% 268395396 6112398.00 { JJ } Hand 1: 53.124% 52.08% 01.04% 304987776 6112398.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ } Fold to the 3bet preflop, IMO. You're behind a likely range, and don't have any implied odds. On flop, he's raising his stack, but you're getting odds to hit your 2 outer if there's any chance he's bluffing with AK so call |
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Re: JJ for advanced players -> PL 25
Oh villain surprised me with 55 so i have to wonder if my play was that bad [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Re: JJ for advanced players -> PL 25
Was it CDL how wrote that great Pooh - Bah post on "Crushing shortstacks"? Read it, it's very good!
P.S.: Do you have stats on villain? I would even like a PF shove here... |
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Re: JJ for advanced players -> PL 25
i think CMAR wrote that crushing shortstacks article
reguardless...this is pretty bad OP. if his range is rly that snug pf, then ur folding there. u have no IO, and this "crazy advanced" play u have invented (called a StopNGo) is as good as burning money with napalm. u rly think a 25player is going to think, "wow, zomg, he totally just potted it here, he totally must have a hand that beats my super hand...i shud fold!"? cuz they wont. and urll throw away money at insane rates so...dont b results oriented, and either get the ranges more correct pf, or fold it there |
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Re: JJ for advanced players -> PL 25
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so...dont b results oriented, and either get the ranges more correct pf, or fold it there [/ QUOTE ] Iīm posting to find out what the correct range/thinking is. I thought AK+. He thought 55 is good. So, against an unknown villain with 66/33 after a whooping 3 hands, what is his range ? Usually villain minraises AA not to loose any customer. |
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Re: JJ for advanced players -> PL 25
You can select in PAHUD a certain number of hands that the villan has played before his stats pop up.
I like 10 and Im not putting too much faith in the stats until at least 50+. As for the default range I err on the side of caution when Im new to a table because - - It keeps variance low, always good when starting a session. - It creates a nitty image which for me is good since I like stealing lots of limped pots etc. (Opposite thinking would also be valid here though - create a loose image for value betting later). |
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