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Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
Both these hands are against the same villian. I hate saying i made a crying call, but In hand one can I find a fold. Im not sure if he plays qq, jj in the same way.
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $50.25 BB: $87.30 UTG: $84.05 MP: $28.90 Hero (CO): $140.05 BTN: $49.25 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $2.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $15.00</font>, Hero calls $9.00 Flop: ($30.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $10.00</font>, Hero calls $10.00 Turn: ($50.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $35.00</font>, Hero calls $35.00 River: ($120.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $24.05</font>, Hero calls $24.05 Pot Size: $168.85 ($3 Rake) UTG had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Sixes) and WON (+$81.80) Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Sixes) and LOST (-$84.05) In the second hand, when he 4-bets me my thought process was something like "surely he cannot have Aces again, vs my kings - same opponent same setup? Should I be folding here? Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $70.20 BB: $74.80 Hero (UTG): $135.40 CO: $65.65 BTN: $55.50 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.25</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $40.00</font>, Hero ... ? Also, I had some history with him in this spot |
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
I really think both of them are fine.
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
yeah but do i push in hand two ?
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
You can, he's not folding anything he 5-bets.
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
Both are fine. Push hand two.
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
I decided to flat call preflop. Wanted to stick it on any pretty much any flop.
Sickeningly: Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $70.20 BB: $74.80 Hero (UTG): $135.40 CO: $65.65 BTN: $55.50 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.25</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $40.00</font>, Hero calls $21.75 Flop: ($80.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets all-in for $34.80</font>, Hero calls $34.80 Turn: ($149.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In) River: ($149.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In) Pot Size: $149.85 ($3 Rake) BB had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$74.80) Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Kings) and WON (+$72.05) I think I can find a fold in hand two, Im sure it's possible, I just dont know how to work out whens when. |
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
hand one 4 bet PF or raise his flop bet.
hand 2 shove at that point. |
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
Hand 1: Lol @ folding. You're only beat by AA and although it's a pretty likely holding he probably has QQ/JJ here enough of the time for you to make sklansky buxx.
Hand 2: Shove unless he's real nitty about 4-betting preflop (which I've noticed most of NL50 players are). I'd never ever fold this at NL100+ but you could make a case here for it.... but I still wouldn't. |
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
It's easier than some might think. Yeah, most people don't ever fold KK preflop, which is fine against certain opponents. It's never an easy fold, but I haven't been surprised to see AA turned over in 4bet pots especially if villain has a tight pfr%.
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Re: Ok - 50nl. Kings. Can I fold either?
Yeah at NL25 and lower you see a lot of random craziness preflop. At NL100+ you start to see more "thoughtful" preflop craziness. NL50 seems to me like the middle of it where most people are really abc preflop and only 4-bets AA/KK and sometimes AK/QQ. There are some exceptions of course but not too many.
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