Two Pair : Now With Angle Shooting!

[rapidacid]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($50.60)
MP1 ($99.35)
MP2 ($64.95)
CO ($48.45)
Button ($43.30)
SB ($24.40)
BB ($49.50)
UTG ($9.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50, CO folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($5) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls $3.50.

River: ($12) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $44 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

Here's the chatter that went down while contemplating:

Villain said, "you dont have the A do you"
Hero said, "well, that means you either have trips or a boat"
Villain said, "yep"
Villain said, "dont call"

[Ampelmann]

Am I weak-tight if I fold the flop?

[BT2]

fold pre
as played fold flop
as played raise turn
as played fold river because of the chatter

[Jurrr]

Villain's stats?

But yeah, fold pre
As played fold flop unless you think he is bluffing a high % of time and will give up on turn
As played raise turn
As played fold river, not because of chatter, but because you beat 84 and that's it from all but the most spewy villain's.

[rapidacid]

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Villain's stats?

But yeah, fold pre
As played fold flop unless you think he is bluffing a high % of time and will give up on turn
As played raise turn
As played fold river, not because of chatter, but because you beat 84 and that's it from all but the most spewy villain's.

[/ QUOTE ]

18/8/1.5 over 50 hands ... that's for VPIP/PFR/TotalAF right? It's been a while since I've actually used stats ... he's also a 10% went to showdown ( tho $0 won at showdown ) ... I didn't have those stats when playing the hand

I folded and called him a douche a couple times for good measure. Whether it was the right play or not, tho I'm almost positive it is, it made me feel warm and fuzzy inside ... will post remainder of chatter later if anyone wants to comment on the fold

[Jurrr]

Just post chatter for the kicks.

[Da GOAT]

whats up with the flop call? BB is betting into 2 players OOTB so how can we be ahead here?

[BT2]

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whats up with the flop call? BB is betting into 2 players OOTB so how can we be ahead here?

[/ QUOTE ]

i can answer that. OP's call on the flop is typical of donks who love to see flops with A4. when they hit a 4 they think their hand is awesome. they tell themselves that the better only has over cards. lol

[Jurrr]

I will occasionally call this flop with a read "likes to take shots at limped pots, gives up turn" and then bet turn when checked to, though I'd rather have a better draw than MPTK.

But these villains are far and in between.

[rapidacid]

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whats up with the flop call? BB is betting into 2 players OOTB so how can we be ahead here?

[/ QUOTE ]

Not sure if BT2 is being sarcastic or not, but Juu's comments are inline with mine ... his 2nd barrel on the turn is not typical however so I paused to re-evalue river on whether to raise or not

The kicks:

Villain said, "you dont have the A do you"
Hero said, "well, that means you either have trips or a boat"
Villain said, "yep"
Villain said, "dont call"

Hero folds

Hero said, "you're not even gonna show ?"
Villain said, "no"
Villain said, "he has to pay"
Hero said, "well, you had a boat"
Villain said, "did i"
Hero said, "i don't know, did you"
Hero said, "anyway, you don't need to pull the newbie "you don't have the A" angle shoot on me"
Villain said, "blah blah blah dont get upset sweet heart"
Hero said, "i'm not upset, just don't be a douche"
Villain said, "man up and dont whine its not becoming"
Hero said, "lol ... i'm not whining you sniveling little simpleton"
Villain said, "who is being a douche i said you dont have an A..."
Hero said, "yea, don't angle shoot"
Hero said, "the A means nothing in that hand"

I sat out after this cuz I had to get ready to go to work so I guess the chat doesn't get logged ... but it had a few gems like him telling me to "go back to my moms basement" and "you have to take EVERY edge you can or else you're in big trouble"