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Old 11-28-2007, 11:49 AM
gordo16 gordo16 is offline
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

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Does anyone else really hate the turn bet? Because I'm not a real big fan of it. I'd like to see some bluff line where OP would be the last bettor/raiser because this way our opponent can very profitably and "cheaply" play his flush on turn. He can actually valueraise vs some of the semibluff-hands we might have (the ones we have here) as opposed to a situation where no worse hand would call.
And whats happening on the turn when we bet is that we are going to end up with 7500$ in the middle as a ~5-1 dog which is not something I'm very happy about. With more money its a very good bet because it puts a lot more pressure on our opponent for the reasons stated above. The opponents flop play really reeks of "i call plz dont pair the board".
The flop 3bet size is sorta meh too because it leads to this turn spot where stack-sizes suck for any other option than check. Like people earlier stated about semibluffing with topset in spots like these I wouldn't be too pissed to commit myself on the flop with a bigger raise and call with ~33% vs doing it on the turn with 17%.
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Brian understands that against your turn c/r calling range, he'd much rather have a set then a low flush.


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With these stacks I'd much rather c/r the turn with a low-med flush than a set, especially since Brian cant have the Kc as a blocker and because the stacks pretty much force gordo to call with anything except air. And air isnt shoving river or doing anything silly which involves putting more money in the pot.
And I'm not 100% sure about this but I'd guess this much money wouldn't go in unless a) someone had the nutflush b) someone had the nut blocker, which means that it doesnt really matter if Brian has a 6-high flush or a Q-high flush. Correct me if this is way off.

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the line that I took here is the line that I almost always take with the nuts, and Brian knows this.

In other news, for the last time, I cant c/r the turn. Otherwise, I clearly would have done it as it is IMO the optimal play to rep the nuts.
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