[metsandfinsfan]

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Dave Winfield, HoF'er. 7 times top 10 OPS+, 7 times top 10 HRs. 3100 career hits (a benchmark), 460 career HRs.

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Rice was 5 times top 6 in OPS+. Career OPS+ is 128. Dave Winfield's is 129.

Winfield may have been better ... but they should both be in the hall of fame

Rices hall of fame monitor numbers
Black Ink: Batting - 33 (49) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting - 176 (56) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting - 42.9 (122) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting - 146.5 (82) (Likely HOFer > 100)

Winfield's
Black Ink: Batting - 4 [censored] 4 (401) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting - 152 (83) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting - 55.4 (51) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting - 148.0 (80) (Likely HOFer > 100)

So Winfield wins in hof standards but is behind Rice in the other 3.

The fact that Winfield's Black Ink is 4 shows he was NOT the dominant player in the league in any year. Rice had more dominant years. Winfield stayed good longer.

I am not arguing against Winfield. He is a hall of famer

Rice should be too