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Old 10-24-2007, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Villain open shove flops in 3bet pot

Here's the thing, though. The real question is how does his large push affect his likely range? Barry Greenstein has written very well about this in his book. He recounts a hand where he was a huge odds dog to have the nuts, but actually did. The guy who called went into a big odds discussion, but Greenstein points out that, to him, it was 100% obvious he had th enuts since he never would have gone all in otherwise.

Anyway, Against an idiot/or maniac you are clearly a big favorite. Against a more typical loose/bad player, I think you are behind substantially more often than ahead when they are willing to put this much into the pot.
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