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Old 08-24-2007, 06:55 PM
zasterguava zasterguava is offline
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Default Re: Some thoughts/clarifications

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What was your suggestion again? Worldwide communism?

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Ok, if we must engage in sophisticated debate using sarcasm then i'll try: yes, searching for an alternative way to create a free society in the absense of the state is definetly going to lead to the assumption that 'worldwide communism' is the way forward?!!!?!?!???! Seriously Nielso, you resort to sarcasm and McCarthyism in one thread.
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I see no logical merit to socialism. Sorry, I don't. Do you want me to lie and say I do?


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No, but I think it is ignorant (and incorrect) to dismiss all pollitcal phillosophy that defends socialsim as failing to be "logical" in its defense. Certainly your amendmet that you don't think anything could ever 'justify' socialism to you is perectly understandable and your personal opinion.

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Zast, three things:

First, please don't attribute quotes to me that are not mine. Make two separate replies, rather than use quick reply, if you also want to quote Nielsio.

Secondly, what part of "to me" did you not understand in the original sentence? When I changed my wording from "defensible" to "justifiable" I didn't even realize I had done this let alone that it meant anything. Not sure why you think one is palatable and the other isn't. Yes there are ways to argue in socialism's favor, but I consider those arguments myopic. All I've been saying the entire time is that I'm convinced socialism has no merit, so broad "capitalism vs socialism" discussion is of no interest to me.

Third, spelling.

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Firstly, I addressed Nielso in the first quote: reading comprehension.

Secondly, its very hard to get through to you. Again, saying that something can not be defended logically is completely different to saying something can not be justified. Justification is subjective to your morality: the arguments logic is not subjective to you. If you say that there has never been a logical defense of socialism I can confidently say YOU ARE WRONG (note; i am not a state socialist). This is very basic stuff and I provided the Nazis analogy to prove this.

Thirdly, sorry I dont always have time to proof read. Ironically, I just got back from a scrabble match which I won; so my feelings regarding my spelling aren't hurt too much.
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