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Gruman, I've been trying to get my thoughts togeather in another thread that jstill started regarding c-bets vs. checking behind, and I still can't get my head around how it can be right to give a free card to a draw, or even single pair, when the pot is nearly 10 bets. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

What are we saying here? If (as in OPs example hand) we wait for a safe turn, and the turn comes J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], do we just check behind again? How about an off-suit Jack, or an off-suit 8? What are we deeming a safe turn? A King, Queen, Jack,8,7 or 6, or a heart completes are darw. Do we check all of them? Even if you take out the unlikely 7, that means we will be checking the turn more than half the time.

My school of though here is that we make our pot-sized bet on the flop and check behind a dangerous turn then re-evaluate the river.

I am very newb, so please tell me if I am way off the mark