[Surf]

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this is what happens when you play like a sissy and dont C/R the flop

since you didnt I'd assume you are behind most times, not that many players are going to bet again with AJ or AT, so i fold

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I'm not sure what would have been different, except that hero would have the initiative and be more likely to bet this ugly river card.

If you mean that villain would have folded a 6outer then cartman's line is superior b/c we'd rather have a 6outer pay a bet than fold this turn.

Surf