[gobbledygeek]

I'm surprised by how many people think we can't catch up on the river. Couldn't 3bettor and coldcoldcaller just have 2 pair here enough of the time? Hero is raising/capping preflop, so even most retards will put Hero on a high pocket pair; villains now know that their two pair is good on turn and they can (and should) 3bet. Or am I giving typical villain too much credit here? Actually, a cold 3bet and call on the turn is pretty damn scary at my 2/4 table, but still...