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Old 11-30-2006, 11:19 PM
jfk jfk is offline
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Default Re: Folding sb pf in a 2/3 blind structure?

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I think some people have become against the idea of calling with real trashy hands because of what they think it says about them.

If it was a 3/4 blind structure, would you actually fold the rags with multiple limpers?

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The same princples/standards apply. It isn't an issue of immediate odds as much as implied odds. If a player were to go all in with the call then it would make sense to call in a multiway pot with any two.

With chips behind, a hand like 72o can't figure to see very many favorable flops. If I remember correctly, flopping two pair is something like 28 to 1. Two pair is the one hand which stands to be able to get action and be a strong post-flop favorite.

If 72o of a similar hand were to flop trips, they don't typically figure to get a lot of action, or if they do, it may be against a player holding trips with a better kicker or a better hand.

Any flush draw with these small, non connected offsuit hands is often not playable.

Straight draws are to non-nut hands and sometimes figure to be to half the pot.

Any single pair type flops get very tricky to play and even a top pair type hand suffers from a bad kicker and may not be playable in an aggressive game.

With bad position and weak offsuit holding a player is not giving up much in folding despite the very good immediate odds.
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