[SellingtheDrama]

If the normal O8 game is 5/10, I'd say that limit. Stud games with a $1 ante and $2 bring sounds about right - would also be reasonably easy to play in terms of chips.

I wouldn't start with a kill, but would introduce it once the game is established. FWIW, when I've played rotation games with a kill, the kill would extend that particular game until the kill conditions were not met, then it would switch over. That's a complication that would probably cause confusion/arguments when you need to worry about getting the game stable over the long-term.