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Second, there is a lot of raising coming from drawing hands (including cat hops and inside straight draws). On the other way, a raiser will always be called by drawing hands (which may include 3 flushes), any pair and any two small pairs. And a lot of fundamentalists will call a cap with any of these. Moral of the story: since you can't put an idiot on a hand and you're usually against 3 or 4 in one single table, be prepared for the most kafkian beats, sometimes hand after hand.


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I don't play much l5cd, but this is pretty silly. Most bad l5cd players aren't that aggressive, they open limp a lot of draws/pairs when they shouldn't. This is profitable. The wild players you describe are even more profitable, and you'll often find yourself in big, heads up pots with them as a big favorite pre draw. You just need to be patient.

In both pl5cd and l5cd, the games tend to be soft at any limit regularly played(up to 5/10 for l5cd, 2/4 or 3/6 for pl5cd). You can usually recognize very quickly when you're sitting at a tough table. If you can't beat these games for at least a small amount over the long run, you're doing something wrong.