[Webster]

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Flop call is really bad IMO

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But I do have the odds if my feeling is correct and BB is just trying to go heads up with SB and does not want to invest any more in the pot. 1.86 to 1 I think.

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you (self-admittedly) suck after the flop.

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I do? Maybe not SUCK - just learning.

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aren't good BB's flat call looks like a club draw as well.

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Exactly and I have him beat.

Not arguing - just trying to understand.

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You have no reason to think that BB isn't going to put you in on the turn when turn bricks,

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Looking at a generic HH true - but after 1 million hands in limit (about) I've learned to go with my gut on certain situations and am normally correct. I'm just hoping my "read" carries through to NL.

So "IF" I am correct that BB ONLY wants to go heads up with SB with his insta-call . . . . .

As far as the pre flop K8s - Phil Gordon does say this is a playable hand on the BB on a loose table.

The one thing I did not take into account are stack sizes but I felt SB was all-in and BB was not going to put more in.