Re: The flop I am looking for is....
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We wouldn't really be bluffing, but it just seems like it'd be pretty hard to win a big pot since there aren't many worse queens that our opponents (granted they're bad) can call down with, so we have to hope that our opponents call 3 streets with 88-TT if we want a huge pot.
We can semi-bluff with QJ on the flop, and I would count our Qs and Js as half outs since they'll call flop with a 10 probably.
If we don't hit the turn we can check and they will most likely check behind, or we can bet again and put them in a bad spot with a 10.. If we hit the turn I'd bet because they will not fold a king and might not fold a 10.
The second board, I just think if they call the flop and turn, they're really not gonna call the river with a pocket pair.
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