[Stumpy]

If raise/calling is bad, how can shoving be better?
Both plays are +chips, but we've now had the bad luck to run into a guy with a hand.

Raise/calling is only bad if his shoving range is way ahead of our hand. Because when he shoves, we only need 41% equity to call, and still can't do it.

The middle of DJK and Stealth's ranges is a re-shove about 7% of the time.

If shoving tightens his range, we're losing around 2.4k chips on average when called. Raise/Fold is -1k obviously. He's re-raising so infrequently that shoving can't tighten his range enough that the added -1.4k is overcome by the extra times he folds and we pick up 825. (As his range gets tighter, we become bigger and bigger dogs too.)

If shoving makes his range wider, it has to get quite a bit wider, because we need 47% equity when called on an open shove to break even.
That gets back to a 55+,A5s+,A5o+ kind of range.

Also, breaking even on a shove is worse than getting the blinds (when we just raise), so we really need a bit higher than 47%.


I think the 62o play does have an effect on his range though. Obviously he had more chips then and you had less, but he called with A5o.
Here you raise 1k, which is a pretty small raise, why wouldn't he think he could get you to fold by shoving? Plus possible tilt / wanting to get back at you.