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Old 08-16-2007, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: YANS (Yet another SAGE question) NLTRN

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I don't think there is every a reason to justify tightening up sb shoves

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That I absolutely agree with. As I mentioned, I don't have any problem shoving wide, *especially* against somebody who appears to be playing too tight.

I just seem to run into all sorts of people who fold their button a lot when they're shortstacked, especially if they see me pushing my chips around when I'm first to act.

Against that sort of player I tend to fold a fair number of hands that SAGE would tell me to call with, especially weaker queens, jacks, and tens, and sometimes even weaker kings, like K2o or K3o.

I guess what I'm really wondering is if I'm making a huge mistake by doing that, in situations where it really seems like they are (incorrectly) waiting for a decent hand to put their chips on.

When I'm the one on the shortstack, I don't make those same adjustments, because I know I need to double up, but I just hate to double somebody up and put them right back in the game when I've got them down to almost nothing, in situations where I have enough of a lead that I feel I can afford to be a little bit more patient.

Huge leak or sensible play?

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The way your talking it sounds like your trying to justify timid play, I think its very likely you are underestimating your villains pushing ranges I would stick to a slightly tighter SAGE calling range until given a good reason not to, and this does not mean a feeling, cold hard evidence only. Very often people will give no indication that they can push very wide at 6bb and will (thus exploiting you if you play too tight) so until you *know* or strongly suspect otherwise dont give them too much credit when they push.
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