[TxRedMan]

Poor player limps UTG (kind of irrelevant).

A solid, tight, but usually passive player limps in MP. He's a winner in the game and does not get out of line, but for example, if someone raises preflop and he has AK and the board is A2KQK, he usually wont put in a raise if bet into on all streets.

CO limps, I raise my button with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB calls, all limpers call.

Flop comes

3-3-K

checks to me and I bet, UTG calls, solid reg calls.

Turn

6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], makes a flush draw possible

checks to me again, I bet, UTG folds, solid reg calls.

River

9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

solid reg checks.

At this point he usually has the case 3 or A245 or similar, because he was getting the correct price to peel one on the flop for a backdoor low, and there is still a chance he has a hand like A2Kx, in which case he will likely begrudgingly call a river bet b/c of the size of the pot.

My image is solid, but from time to time I do go nuts in this game for metagame purposes. i.e., cold capping someone's limp-reraise when I have something like AKQ8 ds or sometimes as little as JJ45.

I suppose it comes down to this:

The action suggests that he will overwhelmingly only call a river bet with the case 3 or AK, and he's much more likely to have the case 3.

Even if you broaden the kind of opponent in this hand, do you still value bet this river?

Seems like too often it will be called by the same hand or the same hand that spiked a dangler on the turn or river, and anything less than AK is going to have a very hard time calling a bet here, but a lot of players would pay off with AK.

Note that there's no straight or flush possible, and when I raise preflop, I usually have multiple wheel cards, so an observant opponent will know I have trips almost always when I bet all three streets.


I know this is a little on the meticulous side, but hey, it's just as important as anyother value bet.

I think this is also a more interesting spot, because even if a baby club comes that makes a flush possible, i'm still going to bet b/c i've got a strong two way hand, and we've already discussed that.

For discussions sake, do you bet the river if it comes say, the Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]???

I know this is a little tl;dr, but I hope we can talk about this spot a little bit.