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Old 03-07-2007, 12:21 PM
guesswest guesswest is offline
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Default Re: Is It Possible to \"Make A Difference?\"

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Not sure I agree here. You don't have to step outside the universe to view the universe as pre-determined. Tim is managing it well and he's inside the universe.

While our decisions are determined, they are not forecast becuase we are unable to gather and interpret all of the required information to do so. Instead we offer meaningful analysis of our condition based on what we do know. Something does not have to be known in totality for it to be meaningful.

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I'm not particularly married to this argument (I'd ultimately make an argument for determinism, just not this one). That said, I wasn't saying we can't have the perception that events are pre-determined, Tim clearly does - but perceiving and deciding are different things.

It's hard to imagine what the 'analysis' you refer to would consist of - if our thought processes are a result of a causal chain, there is no 'we' to analyse anything, it's just non-independent neural activity. Where is self in that?
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