[benjdr]

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First hand is fine IMHO since he isn't raising a lot of hands in the SB that hit this flop.


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Eh? Did i miss something?

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Second hand, preflop is effectively meh because we're flipping or dominated, but we've got the button, so a call here isn't too loose. Flop is a definitive call and I evaluate on turn but I'm very rarely folding this: board is dry, you have TPTK and we know villain is betting no matter what on this flop after raising PF. I probably raise/shove turn depending on the card and SB bet.

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I'll go on the assumtion we flat called the flop.

Why raise/shove the turn as opposed to calling then calling/betting river?

Turn raise: we may stack a worse hand. He folds a bluff.
Call/bet river: he may still stack off with worse. We also stack him if he's bluffing.

Don't we always more value from the 2nd option?