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Ask them to stop using goverment services and see what they think about goverment services then. I'm serious. in fact don't even ask, just dont let them use anything the goverment produces . If they say anything about it then they believe in goverment no matter what fancy worded crap they spout.

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gg

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Tomd argument only works if you totally ignore the fact that money is neccessary on capitalism in order to survive

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What's to stop you from merely working for the bare survival essentials and eschewing money or in fact getting private charities to provide those bare essentials for you?

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Self-intrest, what is youre point? All ACists use goverment services beyond of what is neccesarry for survival.