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Old 11-22-2007, 08:32 AM
drzen drzen is offline
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Default Re: my first NL hnad post...

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Anybody shove all-in preflop here? I would.

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Against anyone aggressive, sure, but there are plenty of players(read:fish and nits) who you can fold to the 4bet against at this limit.

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We would be happy if they did that! I can't imagine our EV is more than the pot after his reraise.

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3bet/folding AKs is a bad plan at 3/6+ generally speaking, because the games are more aggro.

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We'd be fourbetting.

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YT,

preflop is kind of meh... with AK you really want to either be getting it all in, or only putting in like 15% of your stack.

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I think that's a bit arbitrary. Why 15%?

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This is just about the worst stack-size since there's enough money left to bet that you might lose KK/QQ/JJ on a Axx flop, and you can't really call an allin on the flop when you miss, which leaves you folding the flop like 60-something percent of the time if he decides to cbet.

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We are getting about 3 to 1 though. And some of the time we stack him on ace or king high flops.

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This also turns a coinflip (45/55) vs QQ or JJ into a reverse implied odds situation, where he may get away when you hit and he takes 1/3 of your stack without letting you see the turn + river when you miss.

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You've made a strong argument for pushing, right there. You get to see all five cards, so no missing the flop. And he doesn't get away when you hit.

The only question is whether you're ahead of his threebetting range. It's sixmax though. You get threebet pretty wide.

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As played flop shove is fine, but checking and shoving turn when checked to is fine too, makes your hand look more bluff-esque.


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I think you are getting called *marginally* more often when you shove on the flop.
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