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Old 11-29-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: San Fransisco bans Plastic bags from Grocery stores

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Oh, I see. The old "we can solve the slippery slope problem by drawing an arbitrary line" pipedream.

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I'd like you to expand on this. I've laid out my case in more than a single sentence, I'd appreciate it if you did the same. I believe that a voluntary interaction between A and B can affect C, and we must somehow decide what level of affect is socially allowable.

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This is a huge question you've begged. It's just yet another personal subjective opinion that someone wants to impose upon a bunch of other people.

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Are you saying that there is some line that is not arbitrary?

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If a voluntary interaction between A and B affects C (and I agree this is possible), then you may very well have an involuntary transaction. In those cases, you now have a non-arbitrary "line".

Are you saying that this line should be determined by the market (whatever that means)? Are you saying this isn't a problem in the first place (if so please explain)?

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Ah, great idea. Obviously, nobody has a problem with Bush. If they did, they simply would have elected someone else. Interesting.


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You can't increase scale by several orders of magnitude and imagine that the same problems or difficulties arise. This would be like me saying quantum mechanics is obviously bogus based on watching a tennis ball.

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Oh, so anyone who wants to can replace their *local* elected representative on a whim as you suggested they do if they aren't satisfied?
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