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Old 11-28-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: Official November Thread: General Discussion

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arite, yea i'll check out whatever u want in my stats. is there a way to do time ranges in the past?

i'm going to expand to include my october stats too, that'll bring it up to around 50k hands up.

I know for the allin luck, if your blue line is higher than the red, that means you've run better in allin situations.

But for the game analysis, what does the relationship mean?

Also, it's standard for heads up to be negative in won without showdowns?

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For game analysis, I still think it means you are running better, but like I said it doesn't take into effect coolers and [censored], so I'm really not sure how much to give those assumptions. Maybe if your blue line was like wayyyyyyy above your red line it would mean something, but I really don't know.

To answer your last question, I'm not sure. I've said before, I think it's a style thing. If you primarily play short stax, who hate folding, and thus you don't try and push them around as much/dont raise the button as much on them, then obviously your win w/out showdown will be negative, but you'll be winning so much more when you get to showdowns with them, that it won't matter.

However, if you primarily play deep stax, 100bb or more, I'm not sure what it means. Again, some will depend on style, and game flow/dynamics, but I have run for significant times my green line above both lines, but then it usually drops off a bit, especially after a tilt session, which drops it well below and then it's hard to get back above.

So, personally, I'm starting to think it's very difficult to have your green line above both lines after a long period of hands HU, because hu is so crazy and there are so many different dynamics too it.

Now cue aejones graph, or cts totally disproving this...which would be fine and would actually make me feel better cause then Im' not just 2nd guessing myself.

But I mean, look how much you are down in 0-10bb pots. I about [censored] myself when I saw that, but then I looked at my 20-40 and 40-60bb pots and I was up money both with and without showdowns, and obviously those pots are worth more than folding your sb 5,000 times or whatever.

But, as always, I do know I need to make adjustments, Im just not sure about all the different aspects I need to take into account for the change.