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Old 11-27-2007, 12:10 PM
West West is offline
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Default Re: Slate.com on race and IQ

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Based on the wording and context of your post, we are in agreement that discrepancies exist between Whites, Blacks, Asians, Ashkhenazi Jews, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is a fair statement to make, otherwise you wouldn't even be trying to argue the difference in semantics.

So, what differences are there in all the groups I mentioned above? Clearly the answer is race/genetic lineage/ethnic origin/whatever. How is it wrong to say that these RACIAL DISCREPANCIES are INNATE to the RACES from which we are drawing our comparisons? I mean, it's not like the discrepancies are conjured out of thin air and bear no relation to race, right?


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What's also different between "races" is their environmental history. In addition to the Flynn effect, how do you explain this ?

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As for immutable, I'm no biologist, but if memory serves, there exists some difference in the tendon structure of Blacks, which, among other things, enables them to perform better in activities requiring running, jumping, and other forms of physical performance. Explain to me how this difference is "mutable," short of some sort of surgical procedure.

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The same way it's always been mutable, evolution?

Could 200 years of slavery have had an impact? I don't know the answer, I'm asking the question.

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Seriously, every single study (academic, government, private, military) conducted on this topic in the history of ever has resulted in a material IQ discrepancy between races. Don't even bother with the "define IQ or it's meaningless" drivel. It's like pornography, I may not be able to clearly define it, but it's pretty apparent when I see it. The fact of the matter is that Blacks (mean IQ 70-85), who have been given every opportunity for success over the past 2 generations consistently perform 2-3 standard deviations less than the group that has been discriminated against more than any other group in world history (Jews, mean IQ = 110-115).

Immutable? I think so.


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You talk about meaningless drivel even as you're spewing it out. As Taraz indicated it's difficult to know where to start with so many fallacious arguments all at once.

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Edited for link: http://www.halfsigma.com/2007/10/race-difference.html

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It's easier to seperate the speculation out from the link you provided if you follow the links he provides:

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