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Old 10-26-2007, 06:58 AM
aislephive aislephive is offline
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Default Re: Tough Spot in the 1k with a pair + a monster draw

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Bet-call, w/o the diamonds I c/c.

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Think you got it backwards chief. I'd c/c here with diamonds and just bet/call without them.

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wtf, the diamonds increase our equity tremendously, c/c seems kinda bad here, probably bet call or c/r all in

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Right, it improved our hand equity vs his entire range, but being raised on the turn sucks. We'd probably have to call but we're usually behind. On the other hand, giving a free card with ATdd isn't bad either, not many cards hurt us. With an offsuit AT, this isn't the case, a lot of cards really suck on the turn, and a free card is pretty deadly, so we need to bet for value and also protection. We're ahead and behind the same hands with ATdd as we are ATo, the difference is the latter is much more vulnerable.
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