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Old 11-19-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default 3-bet or call with the second nuts

It seems like this should be easy, but I keep flip-flopping on it in my head. Sorry if this is a dumb post.

UTG is a capable of being a total spazz, but I'm not sure how he's playing right now. The last time I played with him, he started giving literally max action with any draw (i.e. raise-capping the turn with a gutshot and then bet-folding the river) and did it for a good 30 minutes before he finally stopped re-buying and quit. He's gotten a bit out of line this session, but nothing quite so extreme.

MP is an obnoxious tub of lard who barks at casino employees and smells bad. She keeps offering lifesavers to everyone at the table, and when I realized that she was storing said lifesavers in her massive cleavage, I threw up in my mouth a little. She's a bad player who plays a bit too loose and doesn't read hands all that well (although she's not clueless). She can be sporadically aggressive in dumb spots and will sometimes push hard with her draws. If someone plays back at her, though, she'll usually just go into call-down mode.

FWIW, at this cardroom there is a $150 bonus for making a straight-flush on the river.

Live 10-20.

PF: UTG limps, a couple more people limp including MP, I limp in the CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], button folds, blinds call.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players, 6 SB)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG raises, 1 fold, MP calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG caps, everyone calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 11 BB)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets, BB folds, UTG folds, MP check-raises, hero...?

3-bet here or just call? I don't like to slow down with the second nuts against a bad player, but I've got all the good cards except the one that beats me. If I 3-bet, can I fold to a cap, or do I have to call down (and pray for the 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img])?

Also, anyone raise this PF? I came very close, but the blinds were a little tightish and I decided I'd rather play this hand in a 6-way unraised pot than a 4-way raised one.
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