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I would love to see us lose this game if it means that Lloyd Carr is finally mercifully put out to pasture. It would really, really suck if we were to somehow win this game + the Rose Bowl (not that this would happen, but still) and then have the AD turn around and extend his contract. Srsly.
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Not sure if you saw adanthar, but Lloyd's retiring:
www.mgoblog.com
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12924049