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Old 11-26-2007, 07:21 PM
vmacosta vmacosta is offline
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Default Re: 30/60 Limit Game in Toronto with experienced 50/100+ players 4hand

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raising q7o in on the button in a raked game is a leak. exploit him...

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if a level, lawl.
if not a level, double lawl.


c/ring the flop is hilarious and awful. playing the hand straigt forward is far more deceptive.

where was this 30/60? i would be interested in playing live, if it's closer to home. the rama 20/40 is way too long a trip for what it is.

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care to give any data supporting your lawling? I have a puny 203 hand sample that suggests that Q7o otb is breakeven.

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if a play is a leak because of the rake, it's not exploitable.

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Good point. But the variance due to small sample dwarfs any effect of rake.

The WR for the sample was -0.03 bb/hand.
The stdev for the sample (assuming 3bb/hand) is ~0.2 bb/hand.
The effect of the rake on the sample is ~.07 bb/hand.

So I'm not trying to argue that opening Q7o otb is exploitable--just that the statement isn't worthy of "lawling" over unless someone has a positive result (adjusted for rake, thanks) to within 2 stdev or so. in which case I'd love to hear the results.
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